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The main Welsh primary sources so far consulted in the preparation of the present document are the Annales Cambri, the Chronicle of the Princes/Brut y Tywysogion, and the so-called "Gwentian Chronicle".Numerous extracts from these works have been incorporated, although it has proved difficult to identify all Welsh persons who are named, particularly for the later years.
If Elisse was the son of Cynan, he must have predeceased his father whose daughter is recorded as his heir (see below).] c) (-after [814/16]).The wide elapse of time suggests that the king whose death is reported in 814 could not have been the same person as the one whose accession is reported in 754, or else the earlier report is misdated.] 4. The same source records the succession of "Cynan Tindaethwy" in 754.The wide elapse of time suggests that the king whose death is reported in 814 could not have been the same person or the earlier report is misdated.] .Roger of Wendover records that the mother of "rex Britonum Cadwallo Cadwaladrus filius eiusjuvenem" was "soror Pend regis Merciorum" whom Cadwallon married after his alliance with King Penda ap Cadwallon "Fendigard/the Blessed" (-killed in battle 682).[The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Cadwallawn son of Cadvan king of the Britons" died in 660 (dating seriously awry) and was succeeded by "his son Cadwalader the Blessed".] After his father's death, the throne of Gwynedd was usurped by Cadafael ap Cynfedw, who was deposed in 654 by Cadwaladr who then succeeded as King of Gwynedd.The Annales Cambri record the death of "Catgualart filius Catguolaum" in 682, killed in battle (-[Rome 20 May 689]).
The Annales Menevensis record that "Cadwalladrus rex Britanni" sent "Ivor filium suum" with 12 ships "ad regendas Britonum reliquias" in 689, and that he died in Rome "XII Kal Mai" in 689.
The writings of the early chroniclers, though singularly faithful on the whole, cannot always be implicitly trusted, and it is not often that the facts they record can be authenticated by contemporary documentation, and emphasises in particular the lack of reliability of Heraldic Pedigrees...drawn up from the first with palpable inaccuracies and without any regard for dates.
Some of the areas of difficulty which he highlights are discussed below in the present document.
It is not therefore known whether Gruffydd and Elisse were sons of Cynan King of Anglesey/Gwynedd or grandsons of Cadel King of Powys.
The chronology appears to favour the former interpretation, but the uncertainty of the chronology of all these early sources is recognised.] b).
It appears to have been first published in the late 18th century by Edward Williams (also known as "Iolo Morganwg") who was "considered an authority on Welsh literature and folklore at the time, but was revealed as a forger in the twentieth century".